{"id":3455,"date":"2013-08-29T13:07:40","date_gmt":"2013-08-29T12:07:40","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/duncanshelley.com\/?p=3455"},"modified":"2013-08-29T13:07:40","modified_gmt":"2013-08-29T12:07:40","slug":"mi-az-a-jogos-onvedelem-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/duncanshelley.com\/en\/mi-az-a-jogos-onvedelem-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Mi az a jogos \u00f6nv\u00e9delem?"},"content":{"rendered":"

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Gyerekkoromban egy nagy \u00e1tj\u00e1r\u00f3 h\u00e1zban laktam, a Dob utca \u00e9s a Majakovszkij utca k\u00f6z\u00f6tt. Akkora gyereksereg gy\u0171lt \u00f6ssze, hogy egy \u00e1tlagos j\u00e1t\u00e9kfegyverekkel v\u00edvott csat\u00e1ban is legal\u00e1bb h\u00faszan vett\u00fcnk r\u00e9szt. Az \u00e1tj\u00e1r\u00f3 h\u00e1z k\u00f6zep\u00e9n ny\u00edlt egy le\u00e1gaz\u00e1s a Holl\u00f3 utc\u00e1ba. Ebben a le\u00e1gaz\u00e1sban lakott a Nyanya becenev\u0171 \u00f6reg n\u0151 az agressz\u00edv kuty\u00e1j\u00e1val.<\/p>\n

A n\u0151 \u00e9s a kuty\u00e1ja k\u00e9tf\u0151s terrorszervezetet alkottak, \u00e9s minket terroriz\u00e1ltak. A kutya t\u00f6bb\u00fcnket megharapott, a Nyanya ordib\u00e1l\u00e1sa m\u00e1r csak hab volt a tort\u00e1n. Rengetegszer sz\u00f3ltunk a h\u00e1zmesternek (a l\u00e1nya is vel\u00fcnk j\u00e1tszott), a sz\u00fcleinknek, de semmi nem t\u00f6rt\u00e9nt. Valamilyen rejt\u00e9lyes okb\u00f3l senki nem csin\u00e1lt semmit.<\/p>\n

Azt\u00e1n egyik\u00fcnkn\u00e9l betelt a poh\u00e1r. A fi\u00fa patk\u00e1nym\u00e9reggel jobb l\u00e9tre szender\u00edtette a harap\u00f3s ebet. Erre azt\u00e1n v\u00e1ratlanul mindenki felkapta a fej\u00e9t, \u00e9s a gyereket, aki mind\u00f6ssze 10 \u00e9ves volt, \u00e1llami gondoz\u00e1sba vett\u00e9k.<\/p>\n

Ez a legkor\u00e1bbi eml\u00e9kem arr\u00f3l, hogy milyen vesz\u00e9lyes v\u00e9dekezni.<\/p>\n

Tizen\u00e9ves voltam, egy ismer\u0151st \u00e9jjel megt\u00e1madott valaki k\u00e9ssel, \u0151 v\u00e9dekezett, ahogyan tudott, \u00e9s elt\u00f6rt a t\u00e1mad\u00f3 t\u00e9rde. Gazdag \u00e9s befoly\u00e1sos sz\u00fclei voltak, ez\u00e9rt meg\u00faszta felf\u00fcggesztett b\u00f6rt\u00f6nb\u00fcntet\u00e9ssel.<\/p>\n

A r\u00e9szletekre m\u00e1r nem eml\u00e9kszem, tal\u00e1n k\u00f6z\u00fcletek n\u00e9h\u00e1nyan igen: az eset annak idej\u00e9n felvert n\u00e9mi port. Egy k\u00f6z\u00e9pkor\u00fa f\u00e9rfi este ment hazafel\u00e9, vitte a fizet\u00e9s\u00e9t, amire nagy sz\u00fcks\u00e9ge volt, az utc\u00e1n valaki fegyverrel r\u00e1t\u00e1madott, el akarta venni a p\u00e9nz\u00e9t, amit \u0151 nem adhatott. A dulakod\u00e1s azzal z\u00e1rult, hogy a fick\u00f3 ell\u00f6kte a t\u00e1mad\u00f3t, aki beverte a fej\u00e9t, \u00e9s meghalt. Ez\u00e9rt a tett\u00e9\u00e9rt t\u00edz \u00e9vet kapott.<\/p>\n

Az els\u0151 esetben, \u00e9veken \u00e1t panaszkodtunk a feln\u0151tteknek, hogy valaki rendszeresen r\u00e1nk usz\u00edtja a kuty\u00e1j\u00e1t, \u00e9s nem tettek semmit. Aki igen, azt gyerekvolta ellen\u00e9re is el\u00edt\u00e9lte a b\u00edr\u00f3s\u00e1g.<\/p>\n

A m\u00e1sodik esetben az ismer\u0151s nem \u00e9rtett semmihez, nem volt h\u00edres karate mester, egy filmb\u0151l szedte az \u00f6tletet, hogy r\u00fagja a t\u00e1mad\u00f3 t\u00e9rd\u00e9t, \u00e9s \u00f6sszej\u00f6tt. A b\u00edr\u00f3s\u00e1g olyan felh\u00e1bor\u00edt\u00f3nak tal\u00e1lta, hogy v\u00e9dekezett, hogy felf\u00fcggesztettet kapott, pedig m\u00e9g fejen is sz\u00fart\u00e1k, miel\u0151tt r\u00fagott.<\/p>\n

A harmadik esetben a munk\u00e1st megt\u00e1madt\u00e1k, \u00e9letvesz\u00e9lyes szitu\u00e1ci\u00f3ban volt k\u00e9nytelen v\u00e9dekezni, szint\u00e9n nem volt h\u00edres karate mester, v\u00e9letlen\u00fcl halt meg a t\u00e1mad\u00f3, a b\u00edr\u00f3s\u00e1g m\u00e9gis k\u00f6zvesz\u00e9lyes b\u0171n\u00f6z\u0151nek tal\u00e1lta, \u00e9s t\u00f6nkretette az \u00e9let\u00e9t.<\/p>\n

N\u00e9h\u00e1ny saj\u00e1t tapasztalat, ismer\u0151s\u00f6k t\u00f6rt\u00e9netei \u00e9s rengeteg h\u00edr alapj\u00e1n az a n\u00e9zet alakult ki bennem, hogy a hivatalos elv\u00e1r\u00e1s az \u00e1tlagemberrel szemben vagy az, hogy hagyja mag\u00e1t, ha megt\u00e1madj\u00e1k, ellen\u00e1ll\u00e1s n\u00e9lk\u00fcl viselje el, hogy b\u00e1ntalmazz\u00e1k, kirabolj\u00e1k, meger\u0151szakolj\u00e1k vagy meg\u00f6lik \u2013 vagy el\u0151zm\u00e9nyek, m\u00falt, tapasztalat n\u00e9lk\u00fcl kap\u00e1sb\u00f3l vonultassa fel egy szuperh\u0151s k\u00e9pess\u00e9geit, \u00e9s egy francia v\u00edgj\u00e1t\u00e9kba ill\u0151 akci\u00f3 keret\u00e9ben szerelje le a t\u00e1mad\u00f3kat, k\u00f6t\u00f6zze meg \u0151ket, de karcol\u00e1s nem eshet rajtuk.<\/p>\n

Az \u00f6sszes magas \u00f6vfokozat\u00fa karat\u00e9s, boxol\u00f3, k\u00f6zelharci oktat\u00f3, rutinos k\u00fczd\u0151sportol\u00f3, akit valaha megk\u00e9rdeztem arr\u00f3l, hogy mit tenne, ha k\u00e9ssel t\u00e1madn\u00e1nak r\u00e1, kiv\u00e9tel n\u00e9lk\u00fcl mindegyik azt felelte, hogy ha b\u00e1rmilyen m\u00f3d ny\u00edlik r\u00e1, kit\u00e9rne. A t\u00e9v\u00e9ben l\u00e1ttam, megk\u00e9rdeztek egy 8 danos karat\u00e9st, \u00e9s \u0151 is azt mondta, hogy kit\u00e9rne, ha lehet. Amikor a tenger\u00e9szgyalogos k\u00f6zelharci oktat\u00f3t k\u00e9rdezt\u00e9k, \u0151 is azt mondta.<\/p>\n

Nem \u00e9rtem, hogy ha azok, akik f\u00e9l \u00e9let\u00fcket gyakorl\u00e1ssal \u00e9s k\u00fczdelemmel t\u00f6ltik, a kit\u00e9r\u00e9st v\u00e1lasztan\u00e1k, ha tudj\u00e1k, mert a k\u00fczdelmet egyetlen k\u00e9ses ellenf\u00e9llel is t\u00fals\u00e1gosan kock\u00e1zatosnak tartj\u00e1k, hogyan \u00e9s milyen szakmai alapokon \u00e1llva v\u00e1rja el a jog az \u00e1tlagembert\u0151l, hogy ak\u00e1r t\u00f6bb t\u00e1mad\u00f3 ellen is \u00fagy tudjon v\u00e9dekezni, hogy m\u00e9g azok testi \u00e9ps\u00e9g\u00e9re is \u00fcgyel? Tesztelte ezt valaki? Legal\u00e1bb gyakorl\u00f3k\u00e9ssel?<\/p>\n

Itt egy teszt, vesz\u00e9lytelen k\u00f6r\u00fclm\u00e9nyek k\u00f6z\u00f6tt, nem igazi fegyverrel, de el lehet gondolkodni rajta: ITT<\/strong><\/span><\/a>. Sz\u00edvesen megn\u00e9zn\u00e9m azt a b\u00edr\u00f3t, jog\u00e1szt, rend\u0151rt vagy politikust, aki egy ilyen szitu\u00e1ci\u00f3t sim\u00e1n lekezel, S\u0150T m\u00e9g a t\u00e1mad\u00f3 testi \u00e9ps\u00e9g\u00e9re is vigy\u00e1z, nehogy \u00e9vekre r\u00e1cs m\u00f6g\u00e9 ker\u00fclj\u00f6n, ami\u00e9rt mer\u00e9szelt v\u00e9dekezni, ha m\u00e1r az \u00e9lete volt a t\u00e9t! Az olyan eseteket m\u00e1r fel sem hozom, amikor a t\u00e1mad\u00e1s h\u00e1tulr\u00f3l vagy b\u00e1rmif\u00e9le el\u0151zm\u00e9ny n\u00e9lk\u00fcl t\u00f6rt\u00e9nik.<\/p>\n

Mi lenne a racion\u00e1lis megold\u00e1s t\u00f6rv\u00e9nyi oldalr\u00f3l? A t\u00f6rv\u00e9ny \u00e1lljon az \u00e1ldozat mellett, adjon neki szabad kezet a v\u00e9dekez\u00e9sben, \u00e9s ne fenyegesse a b\u00f6rt\u00f6n r\u00e9m\u00e9vel? Adjon szabad kezet a tulajdon v\u00e9delm\u00e9ben is? Ha \u00e9jjel az ablakon kin\u00e9zve a tulaj azt l\u00e1tja, hogy valaki m\u00e1szik be a ker\u00edt\u00e9sen, legyen joga r\u00e1k\u00fcldeni mind a hat harci kuty\u00e1j\u00e1t, hogy azok darabokra szedj\u00e9k? Vagy legyen joga s\u00f6r\u00e9tessel fejbe l\u0151ni a bet\u00f6r\u0151t? Legyen szabad jog a fegyvertart\u00e1s?<\/p>\n

A fegyvertart\u00e1s k\u00e9rd\u00e9se megosztja a t\u00e1rsadalmat. Van, aki \u00fagy v\u00e9lekedik, hogy a b\u0171n\u00f6z\u0151n\u00e9l \u00fagy is van fegyver, mi\u00e9rt ne lenne a lakoss\u00e1gn\u00e1l? M\u00e1s \u00fagy \u00e1ll hozz\u00e1, hogy a szabad fegyvertart\u00e1si jog k\u00f6vetkezt\u00e9ben f\u00e9kezhetetlenn\u00e9 v\u00e1lna az er\u0151szak. Olyan hangok is vannak, melyek szerint a lakoss\u00e1g felfegyverz\u00e9se \u00f6nb\u00edr\u00e1skod\u00e1shoz \u00e9s l\u00e1zad\u00e1sokhoz vezethetne.<\/p>\n

A leg\u00e9rdekesebb elk\u00e9pzel\u00e9s, amit olvastam err\u0151l, \u00fagy sz\u00f3lt, hogy amikor a korm\u00e1ny elkezd joggal tartani a lakoss\u00e1gt\u00f3l, els\u0151 l\u00e9p\u00e9sben korl\u00e1tozza a fegyvertart\u00e1st, hogy n\u00e1la legyenek a jobb fegyverek, majd teljesen betiltja azt, hogy csak n\u00e1la legyen fegyver.<\/p>\n

Nemr\u00e9g v\u00e1ltozott a jogos \u00f6nv\u00e9delemr\u0151l sz\u00f3l\u00f3 r\u00e9sz a BTK-ban. Egy r\u00f6vid kis video err\u0151l: ITT<\/strong><\/span><\/a>. (A ninjutsu megal\u00e1z\u00f3 eml\u00edt\u00e9s\u00e9t nem \u00e9rtem, \u00e9s maxim\u00e1lisan elhat\u00e1rol\u00f3dom t\u0151le, ezeket a r\u00e9szeket ink\u00e1bb ugorj\u00e1tok \u00e1t.)<\/p>\n

Tiszt\u00e1bbnak t\u0171nhet a helyzet, de mint tudjuk, a jogi nyelvezet bonyolults\u00e1g\u00e1val az antik dr\u00e1m\u00e1k sem \u00e9rnek fel, a t\u00f6rv\u00e9ny sz\u00f6veg\u00e9nek \u00c9RTELMEZ\u00c9SE pedig szinte \u00f6n\u00e1ll\u00f3 szakma. Vagyis, hi\u00e1ba t\u0171nik az \u00faj szab\u00e1lyoz\u00e1s vil\u00e1gosnak, a vide\u00f3ban l\u00e1that\u00f3 kisfilmet nem a korm\u00e1ny k\u00e9sz\u00edtette, \u00edgy tov\u00e1bbra sem tudjuk biztosan, hogy adott esetben milyen egyedi m\u00f3don \u00e9rtelmezn\u00e9 a paragrafust a b\u00edr\u00f3s\u00e1g. De lehets\u00e9ges, hogy a sok r\u00e9mh\u00edr miatt csak bennem alakult ki az a t\u00e9ves elk\u00e9pzel\u00e9s, hogy a magyar igazs\u00e1gszolg\u00e1ltat\u00e1s minden erej\u00e9vel a b\u0171n\u00f6z\u0151ket v\u00e9di b\u00e1rkivel szemben.<\/p>\n

Mit gondoltok a jogos \u00f6nv\u00e9delemr\u0151l? Milyen lenne a teljesen j\u00f3zan, racion\u00e1lis szab\u00e1lyoz\u00e1s? Ti hogyan hat\u00e1rozn\u00e1tok meg a \u201ejogos \u00f6nv\u00e9delem\u201d fogalm\u00e1t? Korl\u00e1tozn\u00e1tok a v\u00e9dekez\u00e9s lehet\u0151s\u00e9geit? Vagy szabad kezet adn\u00e1tok mindenkinek abban, hogy megv\u00e9dje \u00f6nmag\u00e1t, szerettei, m\u00e1sok testi \u00e9ps\u00e9g\u00e9t, saj\u00e1t vagy m\u00e1s tulajdon\u00e1t?<\/p>\n

Mit gondoltok a fegyvertart\u00e1sr\u00f3l? Enged\u00e9lyezn\u00e9tek? Ha igen, megk\u00f6t\u00e9sekkel, vagy szabadon? Ha szabad fegyvertart\u00e1s lenne, milyen fegyvert rendszeres\u00edten\u00e9tek \u00f6nv\u00e9delemre \u00e9s tulajdonv\u00e9delemre? Mi a v\u00e9lem\u00e9nyetek az \u00f6nb\u00edr\u00e1skod\u00e1sr\u00f3l? Szerintetek a szabad fegyvertart\u00e1s hat\u00e1s\u00e1ra elszaporodn\u00e1nak Magyarorsz\u00e1gon a b\u0171ncselekm\u00e9nyek?<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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